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  • So nun zurueck zu den etwas aelteren National Hunt Sires.

    Ich werde zunaechst einfach eine ganze Zahl von denen auffuehren und dann mal schauen,ob man da vom Pedigree her eine Ordnung rein bekommen kann.

    DEEP RUN -

    DEEP RUN (GB) ch. H, 1966 {16-h} DP = 16-2-16-0-8 (42) DI = 1.63 CD = 0.43 - GSV = 70.66 - 11 Starts, 4 Wins, ? Places, ? Shows Career Earnings: $21,255
    Breeder: Mrs E.M. Magnier , Fermoy , Co. Cork.
    Winnings: 11 Starts: 4 - ? - ?, $21,255

    Beresford S., Trigo S., Rathangan S.

    Champion NH sire and sire of the brilliant Dawn Run. Died 1987 in England

    http://www.pedigreequery.com/deep+run
    Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 04:34.

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    • OVER THE RIVER -

      OVER THE RIVER (FR) ch. H, 1974 {3-f} DP = 4-5-19-0-0 (28) DI = 1.95 CD = 0.46 - GSV = 69.72 - 17 Starts, 4 Wins, 2 Places, 1 Shows Career Earnings: $85,842
      Breeder: Mrs. L. Chataignoux
      Winnings: 17 Starts: 4 - 2 - 1, $85,842

      Black-type placed

      Died 2002.


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      • STRONG GALE v.LORD GAYLE (SIR GAYLORD) ex STERNTAU v.TAMERLANE ex STERNA v.NECKAR Roettgens STAR APPEAL und STERNKOENIG -FAmilieStrong Gale
        breed Thoroughbredcolor Brownsex stallionheight date of birth 1975land of birth IE Irelandland of standing IE Irelandbreed awards 34 Starts: 6 - 11 - 4, $4,396,Died May 1994 level of progeny Eventers: 4-Ev4
        family number TB-5owner
        1st Gros Preis von Dort G3,2nd Grosr Hansa-Preis G2,Irish 2000 Guineas G1, Sired Ask Tom,Cab On Target,Feathered Gale, Fragrant Dawn,Function Dream, Katabatic,Marlborough,Sibton Abbey,Strong Promise,Travado,Stormyfairweather,Ad Hoc,Opera Hat,Gaelstro

        STRONG GALE (IRE) br. H, 1975 {5-d} DP = 12-7-13-2-0 (34) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.85 - GSV = 76.12 - 34 Starts, 6 Wins, 11 Places, 4 Shows Career Earnings: Stakes Winner and Sire
        Breeder: Baronrath Stud Ltd.
        Winnings: 34 Starts: 6 - 11 - 4, Stakes Winner and Sire

        Won in Ireland, France, Germany & Belgium. Placed in 16 Group & Stakes races.
        1st Grosser Preis von Dortmund (GER-G3) 1800m; 2nd Grosser Hansa-Preis (GER-G2) 2200m

        Outstanding NH stallion. Sire of Ad Hoc, Ask Tom, Cab On Target Feathered Gale, Fragrant Dawn, Gaelstrom, Function Dream, Katabatic, Life Of A Lord, Marlborough, Mucklemeg, Opera Hat, Risk Of Thunder, Sheltering, Sibton Abbey, Stormyfairweather, Strong Promise, Travado. Died May 1994 after complications from Surgery at Rathbarry Stud in Ireland.

        Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 04:51.

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        • Arctic Slave
          breed Thoroughbredcolor Chestnutsex stallionheight 170 cm ~ 16.3 hands date of birth 1950land of birth UK United Kingdomland of standing UK United Kingdomlevel of progeny Showjumpers: 1-Sj3family number TB-7 63 Starts,Died 1972.

          Good sire and damsire of Steeplechasers, very common in steeplechase pedigrees



          ARCTIC SLAVE (IRE) b. H, 1950 {7-f} DP = 6-8-5-11-4 (34) DI = 0.94 CD = 0.03 - GSV = 78.17 - 63 Starts, Wins, Places, Shows

          winner

          Died 1972.Broodmare sire of Run Dawn hurdle champion 21 wins Sire of Arctic Melody Gp winner Sire of Arctic walk
          Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 04:52.

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          • KEIN HENGST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Fam.-41

            Der grosse : ARKLE v.ARCHIVE (NEARCO) ex BRIGHT CHERRY v.KNIGHT OF THE GARTER(SON-IN-LAW)

            ARKLE (IRE) b. G, 1957 {41} DP = 6-6-4-2-8 (26) DI = 1.17 CD = 0.00 - GSV = 65.12 - 35 Starts, 27 Wins, 2 Places, 3 Shows Career Earnings: £95,198
            Owner: Anne Duchess Of Westminster
            Breeder: Mary Baker
            Winnings: 35 Starts: 27 - 2 - 3, £95,198

            Cheltenham Gold Cup (three times), Hennessy Gold Cup (twice), Irish Grand National, Whitbread Gold Cup, SGB Chase (Ascot)..

            Born at 03.30am April 19, 1957 at Ballymacoll Stud, County Meath, Ireland.
            Euthanized May 31, 1970 due to complications from arthritis.
            Legendary steeplechaser in U.K. and Ireland.
            His grave is marked simply "Arkle". For the greatest ever steeplechaser, no further words were necessary. Arkle's jaw was/is the 2nd widest ever measured at 11.6cm (throat latch); only behind the great St Simon (11.7cm


            Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 04:59.

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            • ARCHIVE ist natuerlich auch der Grossvater der fuer die Trakehner-Zucht so wichtigen Stute:

              ARCTICONIUS v.APOLLONIUS(ARCHIVE)

              http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=88513
              Arcticonius
              breed Thoroughbredcolor Dark Baysex femaleheight 170 cm ~ 16.3 hands date of birth 1968land of birth IE Irelandland of standing DE Germanybreed awards 2,2,2/2,2 - PS, ASt.-LS, E.St., LD, ZL 15/12life number 09/00499/68family number E22B/TB-22breeder Greatbritain
              owner Ilka Ilona Wenzel, Hückeswagen

              Truly a super-mare, as well as Verband Elite mare, Arcticonius gave birth to three graded stallions--full brothers AVIGNON II and Elite Stallion AROGNO (also Reserve Champion at Körung and winner of his performance testing) by FLANEUR, and ACAJOU
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              • Zusammen mit ARKLE muss man einen anderen Wallach nennen:



                BROWN JACK (GB) br. G, 1924 {2-e} DP = 0-0-0-0-0 (0) DI = Inf CD = Inf - GSV = 50.33 - 65 Starts, 25 Wins, Places, Shows
                Owner: Sir Harold Wernher
                Breeder: Mr. George Webb
                Winnings: 65 Starts: 25 - -

                WON: Queen Alexandra Stakes (Eng-22F)X6, Goodwood Gup (Eng), Doncaster Cup (Eng),
                Ascot Stakes (Eng), Chester Cup (Eng), Ebor H. (Eng), Champion Hurdle (Eng).
                2nd Ascot S. (GB), Goodwood Cup (GB)X4.

                Foaled in Ireland. Overall, won 18 of 55 starts on the flat and 7 of 10 over jumps.
                Brown Jack had the unique habit of "sitting" on the edge of his manger
                when he wanted to relax and take a nap.
                He died in 1934.

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                • Dieser ein SIRE - vaeterlicher 1/2 Bruder zu BROWN JACK ,vom Hengst :JACKDAW

                  Jackdaw Of Rheims
                  breed Thoroughbredcolor Brownsex stallionheight date of birth 1920land of birth UK United Kingdomland of standing

                  family number TB-3N


                  common in steeplechase pedigrees

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                  • Die etwas aeltere Garde:



                    Ein vaeterlicher 1/2Bruder zum wichtigen Hengst :

                    HURRY ON v.MARCOVIL (MARCO)

                    MY PRINCE (GB) b. H, 1911 {8-c} DP = 0-0-0-0-0 (0) DI = Inf CD = Inf - GSV = 74.61 - ? Starts, 3 Wins, ? Places, ? Shows Career Earnings: $ 12,643
                    Winnings: ? Starts: 3 - ? - ?, $ 12,643

                    Won Union Jack S. (ENG), Tudor Plate (ENG), Gordon S. (ENG)

                    Noted sire of steeplechasers. Sire of grand national winners Gregalach (1929), Reynoldstown (1935 and 36) and Royal Mail (1937).



                    Seine Mutter : SALVAICH stammte von ST SIMON - diese war aus der Familie :

                    8 - VIOLET - WOODBINE - HONEYSUCKLE - BEESWING - ARDROSSAN MARE.

                    Der wichtige Hengst : NEWMINSTER v.TOUCHSTONE - war ein rechter Bruder zu HONEYSUCKLE .

                    Er war Vater des Hengstes : HERMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    HERMIT kommt aus der gleichen - nahen -Familie wie : SON-IN-LAW - Fam.-5-d :

                    siehe : FURIOSO -



                    Also waehrend SON-IN-LAW aus HERMIT's Mutterlinie kommt - ist HURRY ON's Vater : MARCOVIL - 3X3 auf HERMIT ingezogen !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 05:42.

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                    • Sein Vater :


                      MARCOVIL v.MARCO



                      MARCOVIL'S dam :
                      LADY VILLIKINS v.HAGIOSCOPE

                      sein Vater : MARCO v.BARCALDINE(SOLON)

                      MARCOVIL war 3X3 auf HERMIT ingezogen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 05:29.

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                      • @ Otmar - guten Morgen !

                        Kannst Du mir etwas ueber die Hengste : DANDY LUTE v.LUTHIER - BIG JOHN v.GIFT CARD - RELTAJ v.PRINCE TAJ - DREAM DANCE v.BUISSON ARDENT - sagen ?

                        Haben wohl alle in FR gedeckt ,bzw DANDY LUTE - auch? Japan - Springpferd durch einen Sohn:



                        Auch SONNY BOY v.JOCK II kommt aus der naeheren Linie.

                        Ich habe hier eine gute Stute aus eben dieser Linie gesehen.

                        Gruss,

                        Michael

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                        • Weiter mit den NH-Sires - bzw auch Nachkommen,die natuerlich meistens Wallache sind.


                          Was auffaellt - bei den "Alten" - dass sie keinen Adel haben.





                          GOLDEN MILLER ist ein gutes Beispiel:

                          Golden Miller
                          breed Thoroughbredcolor Baysex maleheight date of birth 1927land of birth IE Irelandland of standing owner

                          1st Cheltenham Gold Cup 1932-1933-1934-1935-1936 ,1st Grand National 1934 £rd Picture is of Golden Miller and the legenary Wonder Dog Mick The Miller,>http://horseracingonly.multiply.com/ .BNP full British Irish French results from 1960 Group & Grad

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                          • Da bist Du ja ,Otmar - ich werd' nun bald schlafen gehen !


                            Vielleicht von der Stute traeumen - hoffe meine Freunde werden sie kaufen !

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                            • Weiter mit NH-Sires:

                              BUCKSKIN -




                              Buckskin
                              breed Thoroughbredcolor Baysex stallionheight date of birth 1 APR 1973land of birth FR Franceland of standing IE Irelandbreed awards 18 Starts: 10 - 2+ - 2+, $183,288+level of progeny Showjumpers: 1-Sj4family number TB-3Dbreeder Dayton Ltdowner D. Wildenstein
                              1st Doncaster Cup,Jockey Club Cup,Henry II Stakes,Prix de Barbeville,Prix Jean Prat,Prix du Cadran x2,1st & 2nd Ascot Gold Cup G1.3rd Preis von Europa.Died in 1995

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                              • Sein Sohn - Wallach -

                                AMBERLEIGH HOUSE (IRE) br. G, 1992 { } DP = 5-1-8-2-4 (20) DI = 1.00 CD = 0.05 - GSV = 50.94 - 73 Starts, 9 Wins, 10 Places, 10 Shows Career Earnings: £556,432
                                Owner: 1) Ms. A. L .Dikel. 2) Halewood International, Ltd.
                                Breeder: Robert McCarthy
                                Winnings: 73 Starts: 9 - 10 - 10, £556,432

                                2004 Grand National Steeplchase (GB-G3,4m4f,Ain)

                                Now resident at The National Stud, Newmarket.

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                                • ROSELIER (FR) gr. H, 1973 {4-i} DP = 1-1-4-2-2 (10) DI = 0.67 CD = -0.30 - GSV = 56.39

                                  Sire of 2 grand national winners in Royal Athlete (1995) and Bindaree (2002). Died 1998



                                  MISTI finden wir bei LAGUNAS - ILE DE BOUBON

                                  2x TOURBILLON und 3x DURBAR = dam sire of TOURBILLON

                                  3x BRULEUR - grossvater von TOURBILLON
                                  Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 10.12.2013, 08:45.

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                                  • Le Moss
                                    breed Thoroughbredcolor Chestnutsex stallionheight date of birth 1975land of birth IE Irelandland of standing UK United Kingdombreed awards 15 Starts: 11 - 2 - 0, $ 413,428level of progeny Eventers: 2-Ev5
                                    Showjumpers: 1-Sj7
                                    family number TB-1breeder McGrath Trustowner Mr Carlo d'Alessio
                                    1st Ascot Gold Cup G1 X2,Goodwood Cup G2 X2, Doncaster Cup G3 X2, Queen's Vase G3 ,March S,2nd St Leger G1,Le Moss bts Ardross Ascot Gold Cup > only horse to win Stayers' triple Crown twice.Full brother Levmoss.Died 2000.http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=520810

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                                    • http://www.pedigreequery.com/un+desperado

                                      UN DESPERADO (FR) b. H, 1983 {3-f} DP = 0-1-12-9-2 (24) DI = 0.41 CD = -0.50 - GSV = 67.28 - 5 Starts, 2 Wins, 1 Places, 1 Shows Career Earnings: 541,800 fr
                                      Winnings: 5 Starts: 2 - 1 - 1, 541,800 fr

                                      1ST Prix Eugene Adam (Fr-G2).

                                      At stud in France from 1987. Stood at Old Meadow Stud in Ireland in 1990's.
                                      Sire of the great Best Mate.
                                      Died 2001 after suffering a fatal brain haemorrhage in his paddock.

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                                      • LE BAVARD (FR) ch. H, 1971 {3-i} DP = 6-0-6-8-6 (26) DI = 0.53 CD = -0.31 - GSV = 64.18 - 22 Starts, 5 Wins, 3 Places, 3 Shows Career Earnings: €141,616
                                        Winnings: 22 Starts: 5 - 3 - 3, €141,616

                                        1975 PRIX JEAN PRAT (G2,3.100M) 1975 PRIX DU CADRAN (G1,4.000M) 1974 PRIX BERTEUX (G1,3.000M)

                                        Died 1995.


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                                        • PHARDANTE (FR) b. H, 1982 {16-g} DP = 4-1-13-0-0 (18) DI = 1.77 CD = 0.50 - GSV = 66.35 - 23 Starts, 6 Wins, 4 Places, 2 Shows Career Earnings: $244,855
                                          Breeder: Ste. Syncaz Commercial Inc.
                                          Winnings: 23 Starts: 6 - 4 - 2, $244,855

                                          1st Jockey Club S. Gr.2 (GB) x 2.
                                          2nd St. Leger S. Gr.1 (GB), Predominate S. L (GB), Jockey Club Cup Gr.3 (GB), Princess of Wales S. Gr.2 (GB).
                                          3rd Cumberland Lodge S. Gr.3 (GB), Sun Page3 Silver Cup L. (GB). 4th Geoffrey Freer S. Gr.2 (GB) x 2.

                                          Died in 1998, aged 16. RIP.

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