Übrigens auf dem kommenden Bucha solls eine Lichtschranke geben und alle Ponys über 149,5 cm fallen raus 
							
						
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Was soll denn der Quatsch?
149,5 cm? Tolles Maß. Hab ich was verpaßt? Ich dachte immer, 148 cm ist die magische Grenze. Oder haben sie sich an den Körungen 2006 orientiert und fürchten um einen würdigen Bundeschampion?
Da drehen wir uns doch im Kreis..... Warten wir mal ab, was in 5 Jahren ist.
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Na 149 mit eisen war ja immer
 und wahrscheinlich gibts dann nochmal 0,5 cm für Hufwachstum 
							
						
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Unter News auf der Rothenberger HP steht:
22.Dezember
Jetzt ist es wohl raus: Nächstes Jahr werden die Ponnies auf den Turnieren gemessen.
Definitif müssen sie ohne eisen 150 sein und mit Eisen 151. Wir freuen uns sehr, daß man jetzt weiß wo man dran ist.
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finde das nen witz 1,48m und fertig!!! Wo liegt das problem ?Warum ständig einige cm nach oben gehen
Ich finde man soll sich an die regeln halten die scön seit Jahren so sind.Jeder der damit zutun hat weiss das Ponys nur bis 1,48 m zugelassen sind,warum ist es sooooo schwer bei 1,48m zu bleiben?
							
						Was man tief in seinem Herzen besitzt,
kann man nicht durch den Tod verlieren.
Joh. Wolfgang v. Goethe
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Das Problem liegt ganz einfach darin, daß dann ein zu großer Prozentsatz unserer Spitzenponies von der Bildfläche verschwinden würde.Zitat von [bZitat[/b] (mango @ Dez. 24 2006,13:01)]finde das nen witz 1,48m und fertig!!! Wo liegt das problem ?Warum ständig einige cm nach oben gehen
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na das finde ich relativ egal, wenn man wirklich konsequent sein würde, bekommt man auch Spitzenponys im Maß. Das meiste bei den guten wird doch sowieso herausgeritten denke ich, da kann eine Jana Freund ua. auch aus den nicht viel kleineren super Ponys machen.Zitat von [bZitat[/b] (ponypower @ Dez. 24 2006,14:30)]Das Problem liegt ganz einfach darin, daß dann ein zu großer Prozentsatz unserer Spitzenponies von der Bildfläche verschwinden würde.
Und als Deckhengste können die Großen ja immer noch für die kleinen Stuten genutzt werden.
LG
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  ich weiß nicht- warum denn 1,51 cm???
Ich finde das ehrlich gesagt nur dann konsequent, wenn das Maß dann auch bei den Zuchtverbänden geändert werden würde.
Dann wüßte man nämlich wenigstens ganz genau wo man dran ist.
Ist unserer ( 1,45) ja dann verglichen mit dem neuen Endmaß doch ein Zwerg, wenn 151 demnächst die Norm sind
Ärgert mich um ganz ehrlich zu sein doch ein bißchen.
Haben uns am jetzigen Endmaß orientiert und wollten bei einem anderen sehr vielversprechenden jüngeren Pony bezüglich des Maßes ( 2,5 jährig gut 146 ) kein Risiko eingehen - das Pony hätten wir zu einem ganz fairen Kurs haben können, aber uns war das Risiko, dass Sara demnächst nur Großpferdepfüfungen damit gehen kann, einfach zu groß.
Na ja, Glück für meine Freundin, wenn die Stute dann doch im "Maß" bleiben sollte - bin ja wirklich neugierig, was da für ein Süppchen gemixt wird.
Da bleibt eigentlich nur ein Wunsch, nämlich, dass
dann die lieben Leute die da Entscheidungsträger sind bitte mal ganz klare Linien ziehen, so wie es jetzt bei mir ankommt ist es ist "nicht Fisch und nicht Fleisch....
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tja,so ist das dann ebenZitat von [bZitat[/b] (moonlight^ @ Dez. 24 2006,15:13)]na das finde ich relativ egalwenn man wirklich konsequent sein würde, bekommt man auch, Spitzenponys im Maß.Zitat von [bZitat[/b] (ponypower @ Dez. 24 2006,14:30)]Das Problem liegt ganz einfach darin, daß dann ein zu großer Prozentsatz unserer Spitzenponies von der Bildfläche verschwinden würde.
entweder....oder......
 
´das wusste man doch vorher auch schon das dann nur noch 30-40 % der Pony startberechtigt werden.
sorry aber damit hab ich kein mitleid
							
						Was man tief in seinem Herzen besitzt,
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FEI News
New Pony Measurement Rules Announced on FEI Website
January 10, 2007
The FEI website has posted the new FEI Pony Measurement Rules, which were discussed in the November 2006 bureau meeting. The most important rule changes are the abolition of the measurement certificates, the measuring of ponies at CDI-P and CH-EU-P shows, and the newly allowed margin for measured ponies.
Nici Kennedy, head of the FEI pony riders division, told Eurodressage that, "NFs have already been informed that the measurement certificates are no longer in place as of January 1st 2007 and that measurement at the CH-EU-P will be obligatory for all ponies as of 2007. As stated in the latest mail addressed to all NF in December the only further changes to the rules refer to the actual procedure surrounding measurement at competitions: notably the CH-EU-P."
The FEI decided to keep the FEI definition of a pony unchanged (a pony can be no taller than 148 centimeters without shoes). However, the FEI did decide to incorporate a "margin" of at least TWO centimeters when measuring ponies at international shows!! This means that, in the end, ponies can stand 151 cm (with shoes) and still be considered a pony.
Nici Kennedy explained that, "following scientific advice, we have, however, taken into consideration the fact that measuring ponies at competition creates a different set of circumstances which may lead to fluctuation in height and following much consultation with the relevant technical committees we have allowed for a margin of 2cm."
By allowing a margin of 2 centimeters, ponies can be 150 centimeters without shoes and 151 centimeter with shoes, even though the FEI considers 148 centimeter the absolute limited for being a pony. It is true that fluctations in measurement can occur depending on the atmosphere and circumstances of measurement, but a margin of 2 centimeters is still too big.
Nevertheless, the FEI is taking a big step forward in the improvement of the international sport, by abolishing the measurement certificates which were often corrupted by national veterinarians who signed the documents. Also, measuring at international events will make sure that pony sport is being conducted with ponies and not horses. This will make the sport fairer to the children.
photos copyrighted: Dirk Caremans
The New FEI Pony Measurement Rules:
Article 3111 Passports and Certificates of Pony Measurement – amend:
1. The General Regulations of the FEI apply (Art. 139).
2. All ponies must be in possession of a valid FEI passport.
3. All ponies competing at the CH-EU-P will be measured on site before the competition. Random testing at various CIP may also take place.
4. The FEI definition of a pony is in accordance with Article 3103.1. Nevertheless, to allow for the fact that FEI pony measurement takes place under competition conditions ponies measured at competition must not exceed 150cm without shoes or 151cm with shoes in order to be permitted to compete.
5. The Veterinary Regulations of the FEI apply to ponies and should be referred to for all veterinary matters including vaccinations, identification and medication control.
6. Regarding Veterinary Examinations, Inspections, etc., please refer to Annex D of this Rule-Book.
Annex C - I Measurement Procedure
1. Measurement of ponies at FEI Events and Championships can only be conducted by a designated Measuring Veterinarian appointed by the FEI and working under instruction of the FEI. Their independence and freedom from conflict of interest must be assured in each case.
2. The Organising Committee must ensure that a suitable smooth and level area at least 3 meters by 1 meter is available at the place of measurement, free from avoidable disturbances and distractions which may unsettle the pony. This will be verified by the Technical Delegate in consultation with the Veterinary Delegate.
3. It is the responsibility of the owner, and in his interest, to ensure that the pony is well handled, accustomed to the application of a measuring stick, and correctly prepared for measurement.
4. The Measuring Veterinarian(s) carrying out the measurement must identify the pony against its FEI passport (or its national passport which has been approved by the FEI). This will be done as the pony is given time to relax.
5. The pony must either have all four shoes removed and the feet correctly prepared and balanced as for shoeing, with the wall taken down level with the bearing edge of the sole, or be shod.
6. A pony must be presented for measurement in either a head collar without a bit or in a
bridle with a bit.
7. The pony should be handled quietly and allowed to relax before measurement is attempted.
8. In the interest of safety no more than two people may accompany the pony to
measurement (this may include, owner, rider, Chef d’Equipe, team veterinarian or groom).
9. Any parties impeding the work of the FEI measurement officials or failing to co-operate may be asked to leave the measurement area. The FEI measuring veterinarians may refuse to measure a pony in the event of parties interfering with or obstructing their work.
10. The pony must be positioned for measurement with the front legs parallel and perpendicular; the toes of the front feet should be in line. Both hind-feet must be taking weight and as near perpendicular as possible; the toes of the hind feet should be not more than 15 cm out of line with each other.
11. The pony’s head must be in its natural upright position.
12. The measurement must be taken at the highest point of the withers (i.e. immediately above the spinous process of the 5th thoracic vertebra) which should be identified by palpation if necessary and marked before any measurements are made. The FEI measuring veterinarians may refuse to measure a pony whose withers show signs of having been interfered with.
13. The veterinarian carrying out the measurement has the responsibility that the stick he uses is an accurate one. The stick must be fitted with a spirit level and must be shod with metal. A laser device can also be used.
14. Each pony will be measured in succession by two FEI Measuring veterinarians. Should the two measurements differ, the lower of the two heights will be taken as definitive and no further measurement will take place at the competition.
15. At the time of measurement, the physical condition of the pony must, in the opinion of the Measuring Veterinarian, be such that the pony is fit to compete. If the pony on presentation to the veterinarian shall in his/her opinion be unfit to be measured for any reason, or present evidence of improper preparation, the owner shall be informed that the pony cannot be measured and therefore cannot participate in the competition.
16. If a measuring veterinarian is unable to measure a pony, the owner may request that the pony present for re-measurement. A maximum of one further attempt at measurement may be carried out. This will be carried out by the same FEI veterinarian and the pony must be represented for measurement within a maximum time of 1 hour of the initial measurement. The pony must be accompanied to a holding paddock by an FEI steward for the duration of this waiting period. The pony may be ridden during this period. Should the pony be unfit to be measured a second time for any reason the owner shall be informed that the pony cannot be measured and therefore cannot participate in the competition. The veterinarian’s decision as to fitness and preparation for measurement shall be final.
17. In addition to the report made by each FEI designated veterinarian a Checklist (see Annex C-II) will be completed in triplicate for each individual pony measured. A copy will be sent to the FEI by the measuring veterinarian along with his report. A copy will be given to the pony’s owner and a copy will be given to the Ground Jury. These forms should form part of the Ground Jury Presidents report to the FEI.
18. It is the responsibility of the President of the Ground Jury to ensure that any pony failing to pass the FEI measurement is not allowed to start in the competition.
To replace Annex C - II - Checklist for Measuring Veterinarian
With the exception of his fellow FEI veterinarians on site the FEI Measuring Veterinarian is
not at liberty to discuss the details taken to complete this checklist.
A. Identification
Pony clearly identified against his valid FEI passport Yes o No o
Name:_ Passport Number:
_
B. General condition of pony
1. Shoes checked (clean, of adequate thickness for competition etc.) Yes o No o
2. Hooves checked (healthy, of adequate thickness for competition) Yes o No o
3. Withers checked (no signs of interference) Yes o No o
4. Pony fit to compete Yes o No o
If no to any of the above, please give details:
_
_
_
9. Measured height: ____
The complete, official FEI document with the rule changes can be seen here (pdf file)
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@ arvalon
Nach einer Rückfrage bei der FN sieht es folgendermaßen aus:
Es bleibt generellt bei der Regelung:
ohne Eisen 1,48
mit Eisen 1,49
bei internationalen Turnieren werden die Ponys nochmals gemessen und dürfen haben:
ohne Eisen 1,50
mit Eisen 1,51
Begründung: Man geht davon aus, dass die Ponys, die beim Messtermin 1,48/1,49 groß sind beim Turnier vielleicht dickere Eisen haben, nicht frisch beschlagen und ausgeschnitten, bzw. durch die Aufregung etwas größer sind.
Eine offizielle Bestätigung der FEI lag aber in der letzten Woche noch nicht bei der FN vor.
Warten wir doch einfach mal ab.
Gruß Nacatcha
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