Denis Lynch in Aachen vom Wettbewerb ausgeschlossen

[Gast]

Flaminia reitet echt ordentlich. Immer die SML-Tour auf den int. Turnieren mit Pferden wie Tarpan und Cousteau und Upsilon. Aber bei den Pferden und dem Trainer könnte mehr bei rumkommen, da hast du Recht.
Trotzdem war sie 4. bei den Schweizer Meisterschaften Junge Reiter, d.h. auch S**!

Equira ist Schrott. Da steht nie alles. Nicht mal ansatzweise.

Zudem habe ich D. Lynch mit meinen Angaben auch kritisieren wollen...

[Dark-Angel]

Vielleicht bringt dieser Artikel noch etwas Licht ins Dunkel, alles weitere werden wohl die Untersuchungen zeigen:

http://www.st-georg.de/news/detail.php?objectID=12769&class=6

[Dickie]

2. Um sich aus dem "Verdacht" zu bringen, hätte Lynch ja auf ne Dopingprobe bestehen können, statt abrzureisen...
Welcher Verdacht? Das Gemunkel auf Tribünen, bei Horse-Gate, in Medien - also bei allen, die nicht bei der Thormographie-Kontrolle dabei waren? Die FEI-Vet-Kommission hat keinerlei Verdacht ausgesprochen, nur Überempfindlichkeit attestiert.

3. Selbst wenn manipuliert worden ist, hat es auch nur hinten was gebracht, wo er extrem losmachte... Vorne sprang und springt er ja eher immer wie ne Badewanne....(-;
Es wird nicht bestritten vom Reiter, dass es am Hinterbein eine Stelle gab.

4. ich glaube nicht, dass es dutzende Ursachen geben kann für eine Hypersensibilität...
Und was glaubst Du wieviele Urschen es geben kann?

5. es war vorher bekannt, dass JEDER Teilnehmer auf Hypersens. kontrolliert werden würde....
Ja, deshalb fand ich es auch so saublöd, dass dieser Ire schon wieder auffällt. Ich kann mir gar nicht vorstellen, dass man soo doof sein kann nach den Vorgeschichten und nur wegen dem Nationenpreis in Aachen - das ist im Vergleich zu London mit dem Einzelstartplatz für Lynch ja denn doch "unwichtig"..

[Aschtraxa]

[QUOTE=Dollargirl;1076051]Flaminia reitet echt ordentlich. Immer die SML-Tour auf den int. Turnieren mit Pferden wie Tarpan und Cousteau und Upsilon. Aber bei den Pferden und dem Trainer könnte mehr bei rumkommen, da hast du Recht.
Trotzdem war sie 4. bei den Schweizer Meisterschaften Junge Reiter, d.h. auch S**!
Naja, du kannst SM nicht mit der DN vergleichen, das Niveau ist "etwas" niedriger. Und bei den jungen Reitern waren nur 12 und im Finale nur noch 9 am Start ;-) aber sie macht es nicht so schlecht. Obwohl bei dem Geld, was da reinivestiert wird...
Denis is nen netter Kerl, aber auch knallhart und ehrgeizig. Und wenn du mal schaust, springen alle seine Pferde mehr oder weniger gleich mit viel Respekt vor der Stange.
Eine haarprobe bringt nicht viel, da das meiste zu schnell verfliegt, in Behring haben sie Captain ja nur gefunden, weil das Labor so nah dran war.

[Dickie]

http://www.st-georg.de/news/detail.p...=12769&class=6
Mein Ziel ist es ja wirklich nicht, den Lynch zu verteidigen,
aber 1. gab es im WDR Bilder, die die Bandagenkontrolle der FEI bei Lantinus zeigen, da war nix von nicht anfassen lassen wollen zu sehen.
2. hat die FEI bekannt gegeben, dass eine erste Untersuchung Hypersensitivität ergab und am nächsten Morgen eine weitere gemacht wurde - also nicht wegen Unwilligkeit des Pferdes zweite Untersuchung, das ist schon was anderes.
3. frage ich micht, ob man überhaupt thermographieren könnte, wenn das Pferd niemanden an die Beine läßt...
4. warum hat die FEI wie im WDR-Beitrag postuliert "ein Versäumnis begangen", weil sie keine Dopingprobe angesetzt hat? Laut den Veterinären gab es wohl keine Anhaltspunkte für Manipuation.
Warhscheinlich sollte jeder Reiter die lieber selbst beantragen, um "klar Schiff" zu haben....

[Tambo]

Dickie.... Unschuldsvermutungen schön und gut....

ABER Denis Lynch ist keineswegs das erstemal wegen Auffälligkeiten aufgefallen.

Der wird sich sicherlich erkundigt haben, wann er eine Dopingprobe beantragen sollte. Bzw. sein Rechtsanwalt.

Und thermographieren ist eine Methode, die wie eine Kamera funktioniert, ich fotografiere ja auch nicht, indem ich das Objektiv in dein Gesicht halte.

[Dickie]

Na Gott sein Dank (das Objektiv im Gesicht meine ich...). Hast ja Recht, ich wollte auch keine "Blauäugigkeit" predigen, aber die Vielzahl an vorauseilenden Feststellungen finde ich manchmal beängstigend forsch.... Übrigens auch und gerade beim Fernsehen, als ob die je etwas zeitnah mitbekommen und auch schnell genug begreifen...

[caspar]

Ich kenne keinen der Beteiligten persönlich. Nur bitte ich eines zu berücksichtigen:
Profis kommen auf "solche Ideen" wenn der Druck durch die Besitzer zu groß wird.
Der Sponsor zahlt und möchte, begreiflicher Weise, positive Resultate sehen.
Wenn die Qualität des Pferdes nicht entsprechend ist - was tun ?

[Ramirell]

Nicht DAS!! Dafür gibt es keine Rechtfertigung und Enschuldigung. Das Pferd kann nämlich nix dafür. Dann den Beruf wechseln. Punkt.

[Pavarotti]

Laut Horse & Hound hier hat die irische FN die Olympianominierung von Dennis Lynch zurückgezogen...

[verhuelsdonk]

Zitat von der Denis Lynch Webseite:

Statement from Denis Lynch regarding the removal of his nomination for an Olympic place in London

Today, following my attendance at a meeting at the OCI/HSI Monitoring Group, I am devastated to relate that my nomination for the Olympic place in London has been withdrawn.

On Saturday evening, under section 2.8 of the SELECTION TERM AND CRITERIA for showjumping at the Olympic games in London, I was asked to attend a meeting in Dublin to address concerns HSI had following Lantinus disqualification in Aachen on Friday, 6th July. The purpose of the meeting was to provide an explanation of the events as they unfolded in Aachen. Following a lengthy meeting, I, with my manager and lawyer were informed that they were not satisfied with the explanation provided and would therefore be recommending the withdrawal of my nomination for the Olympic games. No further details were provided.

I would now like to take this opportunity to further clarify matters regarding events surrounding the disqualification of Lantinus and also relate a number of matters that my manager, lawyer and I find extremely strange and highly irregular.

I realise that the general public would not be aware of the process when a horse has displayed reason for concern before a showjumping event. I will therefore detail events as they happened last week.

On Wednesday evening, Lantinus was presented to the FEI vets for examination as he had picked up a small wound on the left fore leg and an abrasion on the right hind leg sustained in the competition he participated in that day. These injuries were noted and a decision was taken by the Chef D’Equipe, Mr. Robert Splaine, the Irish team vet, Mr. Marcus Swail and I that Lantinus was fit to compete on Thursday. I would like to make it perfectly clear that I do not have the authority to make this decision by myself when competing for the Irish team and these decisions are always made in conjunction with the Chef D’Equipe, Mr. Splaine and the Irish vet, Mr. Swail. In fact, as stated in the meeting this morning by Mr. Splaine, the Chef D’Equipe has the final decision on the rider and horse competing at a Nations Cup event. He also stated that the Chef D’Equipe’s position is a highly pressurised and responsible position, an opinion I agree with entirely. It is certainly a very responsible position as the decision made by the Chef D’Equipe has had very serious consequences.

Lantinus was examined again two hours before the Nations Cup on Thursday by the FEI vets who were satisfied he was fit enough to compete. Having competed in two very difficult rounds in very testing ground conditions, Lantinus was examined again and there were increased sensitivity around the noted areas and a further exam was undertaken at 8.30am on Friday. The sensitivity had not decreased and Lantinus was now considered hypersensitive within Annex XI of FEI Veterinary Regulations and on this advice; Lantinus was disqualified by the attending FEI vets. We had thirty minutes to appeal and following discussions with Mr. Splaine and Mr. Swail, we decided not to appeal and allow Lantinus to be treated. Our primary concern was the welfare of Lantinus and also I had no intention of Lantinus competing in any other event at Aachen.

I would again like to state that at no stage, was there any inference from the FEI veterinary commission that the hypersensitivity was anything other than natural occurring. This is extremely important to note.

Lantinus received no further sanction and was free to compete in the next show, should I decide. I was also free to compete in the remainder events at Aachen and I did so on Sunday in the Grand Prix where I finished best of the Irish in 13th place on my nominated Olympic horse, Abervail.

My record regarding animal welfare is well documented. Last year alone, I raised almost € 200,000.00 for the ISPCA to help in the trojan work that association undertakes.

Hindsight is wonderful and I fully understand if the public wonder why a chance was ever taken with Lantinus in competing in the Nations Cup on Thursday but I’d like to put this decision into perspective also. In May, having won the Derby at La Baule, I broke two ribs and had nine stitches to my head. I was advised by my doctor that I would be unable to compete for at least six weeks. However, Mr. Splaine had continued to pressurise me into riding for Ireland in the Nations Cup as the Irish team were unfortunately struggling badly. In the meeting today, he said he kept a spot open for me at the Rome Nations Cup. This is true and it is also true that this was 12 days after I had broken my ribs !! He informed me at the time that I may be jeopardising my chance for the Olympic nomination if I was not back riding in the Irish team very soon. This is a spot that I had spent 14 months competing to secure for Ireland and succeeded by finishing top of the individual Olympic rankings. This was important as the Irish team, of which I was also a part of, failed to secure a team spot at the Olympics. Perhaps this gives an indication to the pressure that was exerted on me in Aachen to compete in the Nations Cup with Lantinus.

When I received the news that Lantinus was disqualified, I was distraught. I knew how this might be perceived but was confident that the findings from the Veterinary Commission would be that the hypersensitivity was naturally occurring. Nevertheless, it was the very last thing I needed. The reporting from various elements of the media was inaccurate and the attention it received was terrible but following the release of my statement on Saturday, the details of the matter were clarified and media attention calmed considerably.

For the record, the measures implemented by FEI regarding hypersensitivity are excellent and ones in which I fully support. It is true that my horses have been deemed hypersensitive on two other occasions. One of these was as a result of mud rash picked up while competing in Falsterbo with Irish team. The horse, Lord Louis, was however allowed compete immediately the following day under the FEI regulations. The other occasion was in Rio where two other competitors also displayed symptoms of hypersensitivity. I realise having hypersensitivity once in a horse, is one occasion too many but to put things into perspective, I compete at approximately 50 events every year where there could be anything between six and nine classes. All my horses are continuously examined throughout the year at these events.

A couple of matters during the last week that I found unusual were as follows. I had not had the opportunity to speak to my brother and manager about the matter before Mr. Damian McDonald, the Secretary General of HSI, had informed him what had unfolded. He then suggested to my brother that I withdraw my nomination for an Olympic place. This was before any report from the Veterinary Commission had been produced. This request was stated at the meeting this morning as Damian McDonald was one of three persons on the monitoring group who would make a decision on my nomination !!

For the record, one of the other two persons on the monitoring group was Mr. Marcus Swail, the vet who was part of the decision making process to compete Lantinus ! The independence of the monitoring group has certainly raised concerns for us.

Another matter that I considered unusual was the advice of the Chef D’Equipe at Aachen. I live two hours from Aachen and he advised me not to return to Aachen to compete. This is despite the fact that I was fully entitled to compete there. We also found it extremely strange that no effort was made by HSI to clarify matters on Saturday. Today, public perception was raised at the meeting by Mr. McDonald. Well, when no effort is made by the governing body to clarify matters when such an instance occurs, then naturally public perception will be suspicious in my opinion. Finally, to top it all off, my participation in the Nations Cup in Falsterbo this week was withdrawn by Mr. Robert Splaine with no explanation provided. This raises the question as to the extent of the support provided for me by Horse Sport Ireland.

At this stage, we are considering an appeal. However, although we have the right to appeal the decision this morning, we have been informed no appeal process is in place. This again, we find very unusual.

Naturally I am extremely disappointed with the decision this morning. We provided a full explanation for everything that was asked of us and no question was left unanswered so the statement that we had not provided a “satisfactory explanation” is baffling.

I would like to thank everyone who has sent so many kind messages to me over the last week and also for their support throughout my career. It means so much, particularly during some of the difficult times anyone goes through during their life/career.

I would also like to wish Billy Twomey the very best of luck in London. He is a superb rider, gentleman and friend. If I decide not appeal or my appeal is unsuccessful, the other candidate who will be nominated will have my full support also. It is an amazing achievement to participate in the Olympics and I would dearly love Ireland to be successful in London.

Today is a very, very, disappointing day for me but rest assured I will return stronger from the experience.

[tendera]

Ich würde ihm wirklich sehr gerne glauben, was er da sagt (meine Naivität ist SEHR dafür) , aber Zweifel bleiben dennoch .... :/

[Arame]

Ist doch egal ob die Iren Dennis Lynch oder Cian O`Conner mitnehmen, das ist gehüpft wie gesprungen, der ist ja auch schon auffällig geworden...

[Dickie]

@arame: Bock zum Gärtner gemacht oder so....die Iren haben wirklich einen ganz eigenen Sinn für Humor (* chrchrchrchr..*)

[Tanja22]

DAS habe ich auch so bei mir gedacht....warme Einreibung oder Scheißegalspritze............
Habe mal ein Video gefunden, was ein Pferd mit Überdosierung des Mittels Fluphenazine zeigt-eigendlich zum Beruhigen gedacht, nur wurde da wohl deutlich mehr von gegeben. Video ist 5 Tage nach der Injektion gedreht worden und Pferd wurde, wenn ich das richtig gelesen habe, alle 8 Std. mit Valium sediert. Hat sich aber völlig erholt (kann sich also jeder anschauen) und wurde zur Abschreckung eingestellt......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbaIUL_nzN0

[monka]

Ähh, und was hat das mit Dennis Lynch zu tun???