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  • carlo
    • 15.10.2026

    #1

    WIENER WALZER - Derby 2009

    Hier ein kurzes Video von DYNAFORMER,dem Vater des Deutschen Derby-Siegers,der auch muetterlicherseits kein deutsches Blut hat.


    Und hier kurz auf der Koppel(natuerlich von Laien aufgenommen!)
    Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 09.07.2009, 06:43.
  • carlo

    #2
    Latest NewsRace recordPedigreeConformationMating RecommendationsHypothetical MatingsSeason Application


    Und WIENER WALZERs Pedigree:
    http://www.pedigreequery.com/wiener+walzer4

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    • carlo

      #3
      Aus RACINGPOST,von T.Morris:

      J
      UDGING by the weekend’s
      Group 1 results in Europe,
      anyone might form the view
      that racing was always
      predictable. Sea The Stars
      took the best form into Saturday’s
      Coral-Eclipse and duly won in style;
      Lord Shanakill followed suit in
      Sunday’s Prix Jean Prat at Chantilly,
      and Wiener Walzer completed a treble
      for the form horses at the top level
      with a comfortable score in Germany’s
      premier Classic, the Deutsches Derby,
      in Hamburg.
      It was not straightforward for
      punters in Germany, because although
      Wiener Walzer was number one on
      the card by virtue of having the
      highest official rating, his trainer’s
      number one jockey chose to partner
      unbeaten stable-companion and 9-10
      favourite Suestado.
      Adrie De Vries’s decision proved
      costly, as the Monsun colt, far from
      making the expected improvement
      from his Listed win in Hanover a
      month ago, beat only three of his 16
      rivals. He finished 14 lengths behind
      Wiener Walzer, whose previous Group
      2 triumph in the principal Derby trial,
      the Union-Rennen, had to be
      considered the best public form.
      This was Wiener Walzer’s third win
      from four starts. He appeared only
      once as a juvenile, giving no
      indication of Classic potential as fifth
      in a minor event in Cologne at the
      beginning of November, although it
      was reasonable to assume he would
      be better as a three-year-old.
      The colt created a more favourable
      impression on his return at Bremen in
      April, trotting up by seven lengths,
      and his win last month in the 1m3f
      Union-Rennen ensured he would head
      three-year-old rankings by Derby day.
      Saphir was rated second by virtue
      of his Group 3 win in the Bavarian
      Classic (1m2f) in Munich, while
      Oriental Lion and Panyu, who both
      chased Wiener Walzer home in
      Cologne, ranked third and fourth.
      If there was any reason to doubt
      Wiener Walzer’s Derby credentials,
      perhaps it was the fact that he drifted
      right after taking the lead in the
      Union-Rennen, which might have
      been interpreted that he was nearing
      the limit of his stamina. But on
      Sunday he gave a more professional
      performance and saw out the 1m4f
      well, winning by a length and a
      quarter and a neck from outsiders in
      Sordino and Toughness Danon.
      Pedigree tends to be a poorer guide
      than form when it comes to
      winner-finding, but in this case it
      proved equally effective, as Wiener
      Walzer was emphatically the best-bred
      contender, coming from a background
      readily recognisable as top-class at
      international level. And almost
      uniquely, where winners of the
      Deutsches Derby are concerned, there
      is nothing German about it.
      Wiener Walzer holds a German
      passport, as he was foaled at
      Schlenderhan, but his 61 closest
      ancestors – shown in the adjacent
      five-generation tabulated pedigree –
      all had their origins in elsewhere. The
      US, Canada, England, Ireland, France
      and Italy all feature, while Germany is
      conspicuous by its absence.
      Wiener Walzer comes from the 16th
      crop by the once lightly regarded
      Dynaformer, a massive (17 hands)
      son of Roberto who hardly seemed
      built for careering around America’s
      tight ovals but who was tough enough
      to race 30 times during three seasons
      there. He retired with seven victories
      to his name, most notably at Grade 2
      level in the Jersey Derby (1m2f) and
      the Discovery Handicap (1m1f), both
      as a three-year-old. He showed
      versatility too, placing in Graded
      company on dirt at both 1m and
      1m5f, while two of his wins and a
      third place in the Grade 2 Dixie
      Handicap (1m4f) displayed his
      effectiveness on grass.
      Those achievements, and the bank
      balance of $671,207 they brought
      him, were creditable enough, but they
      could not make him an automatic
      favourite of Kentucky breeders. He
      had not been precocious, he owned
      more stamina than speed, he had no
      Grade 1 win on his cv and he could
      not flaunt a fashionable pedigree. He
      would have to make his name the
      hard way, and with his fee set at
      $5,000 for his first five seasons, he
      could not rely on quality mares.
      From the outset, Dynaformer did
      something important to draw
      attention; he passed on his soundness
      to a remarkable degree. Of the 47
      named foals in his first crop, 46 ran
      and 42 won, and that pattern has
      continued throughout his career, so
      that to the end of 2008, with 16 crops
      of racing age, the latest of them still
      largely unrepresented, no fewer than
      84 per cent of his foals had reached
      the track and 61 per cent had won.
      The merit of that record may be
      gauged by a comparison with his
      exact contemporary Seeking The
      Gold, who registered 78 per cent
      runners and 54 per cent winners over
      the same period, while always
      favoured with higher quality mates.
      Dynaformer had no winner at
      Grade 1 level until Vergennes, from
      his fifth crop, landed the 1998
      Hollywood Derby, and the wait for a
      top-level success on dirt was even
      longer, lasting until his seventh-crop
      daughter Critical Eye took the 2000
      Gazelle Handicap.
      Group 1/Grade 1 victories have
      come regularly since then, Wiener
      Walzer being the 14th individual to
      attain that level, and the ninth to do
      so on grass. Those figures became 15
      and ten a few hours later, when
      Gozzip Girl took the American Oaks
      Invitational at Hollywood Park.
      OVER a decade passed
      between the first Pattern
      success in Europe for a
      Dynaformer product – by
      Voyagers Quest in the
      1996 Prix Saint-Roman – and the
      second, but since Lucarno’s 2007
      Great Voltigeur, en route to a more
      consequential St Leger triumph,
      Michita, Tajaaweed, Americain and
      Rainbow View all added to the tally
      before Wiener Walzer’s Classic score.
      The Deutsches Derby hero is the
      second foal, and second Pattern
      winner, of his dam Walzerkonigin,
      whose first, the Rahy colt
      Walzertraum, took last year’s
      Bavarian Classic. The mare was
      herself a high-class performer,
      winning in Group 3 company in
      France and at Group 2 level in
      Germany before re-crossing the
      Atlantic to more than double her
      earnings, thanks chiefly to a fine
      effort as runner-up in the Grade 1
      Flower Bowl Invitational.
      Walzerkonigin was out of a mare,
      Great Revival, who earned nothing in
      three runs in Ireland but had some
      pedigree to recommend her as a
      broodmare. By Keen, a lower-profile
      brother to Kris and Diesis, she was
      delivered by Prudent Girl, the dam of
      top-grade winners Play It Safe (Prix
      Marcel Boussac) and Providential
      (Washington International), and
      grand-dam of Saratoga Springs
      (Racing Post Trophy).
      Wiener Walzer is a worthy addition
      to the long list of celebrities in this

      long-established quality family

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      • carlo

        #4
        Nocheinmal Tony Morris:
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        SIRE
        DYNAFORMER

        Bred by Joseph Allen. Won 7 (7f-1m4f) of 30 starts in 3 seasons, viz. 1
        out of 5 at 2 years, 4 (inc Jersey Derby-Gr2, Discovery Handicap-Gr2) out
        of 14 at 3 years, 2 out of 11 at 4 years. Daily Racing Form Handicap: 116
        (11lb below champion Risen Star) at 3. Earned $671,207.
        Plain individual, short on quality and lacking strength behind the saddle.
        Stands 17 hands, but simply high-withered; not a massive horse.
        A good performer, lacking the speed to excel in top Stateside company,
        but smart in his class on both dirt and turf. Well suited by 1m4f.
        Well-bred. Half-brother to a minor stakes-winner, and to dam of 2-y-o Gr2
        winner Supremo. By a Derby winner and major sire out of a Gr1 winner
        who was half-sister to Darby Creek Road (by Roberto; high-class
        performer on dirt and turf, also a useful sire).
        To stud at 5. Stands at Three Chimneys Farm, Midway, Kentucky at a
        fee of $150,000 (live foal). Sire of 17 crops of racing age, inc. notable
        winners Vergennes (Hollywood Derby-Gr1T), Collect The Cash (Queen
        Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T), Critical Eye (Gazelle H.-Gr1D, Hempstead
        H.-Gr1D), Starrer (Santa Maria H.-Gr1D, Santa Margarita Invitational HGr1D),
        Perfect Drift (Stephen Foster H.-Gr1D), Riskaverse (Queen
        Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T, Flower Bowl Invitational H. [twice]-Gr1T),
        Film Maker (Queen Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T), Sand Springs (Diana
        H.-Gr1T), Purim (Keeneland Turf Mile S.-Gr1), Barbaro (Florida Derby-
        Gr1D, Kentucky Derby-Gr1D), Dynaforce (Flower Bowl Invitational S.-
        Gr1T), Lucarno St Leger S.,-Gr1T), Michita (Gr2T), Gozzip Girl (American
        Oaks Invitational-Gr1T), Rainbow View (Fillies’ Mile-Gr1T), Wiener
        Walzer (Deutsches Derby-Gr1T).
        DAM
        WALZERKONIGIN

        Bred by Taiki Farm in Kentucky. $275,000 Keeneland July yearling. Won 5
        (7f-1m2f) of 13 starts in 3 seasons, viz. 1 out of 1 at 2 years, 3 (inc. Prix
        Chloe-Gr3, Frankfurt Trophy-Gr2) out of 7 at 3 years, 1 (Premio Emilio
        Turati-Gr2) out of 5 at 4 years. Also 2nd in Flower Bowl Invitational S.-
        Gr1. Earned $410,591.
        High-class performer, best as 4-y-o, effective on firm and soft turf.
        Well bred. By a triple Gr1-winning miler and major sire. Half-sister to a
        winner, her dam’s only other runner, herself dam of Gr2-placed Wadaat.
        Dam ran three times unplaced, half-sister to numerous other winners, inc.
        Providential and Play It Safe (both Gr1), Prudent Manner (Listed) and
        Miller’s Lass, and to the dam of Gr1 winner Saratoga Springs.
        Grand-dam won twice, half-sister to successful sires Hethersett, Royal
        Prerogative and Proud Chieftain. Excellent – formerly Cleaboy – family,
        tracing to Lost Soul.
        To stud at 5 and dam of: Walzertraum (2005 c by Rahy), Wiener
        Walzer (2006 c by Dynaformer; Classic winner), Waltzing Wonder (2007 c
        by Monsun; unraced to date). She was not covered in 2007, but visited
        Montjeu in 2008.

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        • carlo

          #5
          Mit KINGMAMBO dem Muttervater von WIENER WALZER ist nocheinmal amerikanisches Blut im Pedigree und dazu ist dies ein sehr schoener und harmonischer Hengst.
          Dann in der naechsten Generation haben wir mit KEEN einen Vollbruder zu KRIS und DIESIS,hier beginnt dann die englische Blutlinie des Pedigrees.

          Sollte der Hengst in Deutschland aufgestellt werden,haben wir Blutanschluss durch ACATENANGO(bzw.SURUMU) ueber : RELIANCE (DOUBLY SURE - KEENs Mutter)

          Durch LAW SOCIETY : RIBOT,ALIBHAI,HELIOPOLIS und natuerlich NASRULLAH.

          Durch RANSOM O'WAR : ROBERTO, NASHUA(dann 3X) und MY BABU.

          Durch DASHING BLADE : SHARPEN UP und NATIVE DANCER.

          Durch DAI JIN : NUREYEV , RAISE A NATIVE, NORTHERN DANCER (3X)


          Um nur einige Verbindungen zu nennen,und damit werden wir uns langsam aber sicher dem Ende der deutschen Linienzuchten naehern,natuerlich bleiben sie ganz weit hinten im Pedigree erthalten.

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          • carlo

            #6
            DYNAFORMER hatte noch einen Gr I Sieger: Die AMERICAN OAKS-Siegerin:

            GOZZIP GIRL

            Auch sie ist wie WIENER WALZER aus einer KINGMAMBO Mutter.

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