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    • 08.05.2025

    WIENER WALZER - Derby 2009

    Hier ein kurzes Video von DYNAFORMER,dem Vater des Deutschen Derby-Siegers,der auch muetterlicherseits kein deutsches Blut hat.


    Und hier kurz auf der Koppel(natuerlich von Laien aufgenommen!)
    Zuletzt geändert von Gast; 09.07.2009, 06:43.

  • #3
    Aus RACINGPOST,von T.Morris:

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    UDGING by the weekend’s
    Group 1 results in Europe,
    anyone might form the view
    that racing was always
    predictable. Sea The Stars
    took the best form into Saturday’s
    Coral-Eclipse and duly won in style;
    Lord Shanakill followed suit in
    Sunday’s Prix Jean Prat at Chantilly,
    and Wiener Walzer completed a treble
    for the form horses at the top level
    with a comfortable score in Germany’s
    premier Classic, the Deutsches Derby,
    in Hamburg.
    It was not straightforward for
    punters in Germany, because although
    Wiener Walzer was number one on
    the card by virtue of having the
    highest official rating, his trainer’s
    number one jockey chose to partner
    unbeaten stable-companion and 9-10
    favourite Suestado.
    Adrie De Vries’s decision proved
    costly, as the Monsun colt, far from
    making the expected improvement
    from his Listed win in Hanover a
    month ago, beat only three of his 16
    rivals. He finished 14 lengths behind
    Wiener Walzer, whose previous Group
    2 triumph in the principal Derby trial,
    the Union-Rennen, had to be
    considered the best public form.
    This was Wiener Walzer’s third win
    from four starts. He appeared only
    once as a juvenile, giving no
    indication of Classic potential as fifth
    in a minor event in Cologne at the
    beginning of November, although it
    was reasonable to assume he would
    be better as a three-year-old.
    The colt created a more favourable
    impression on his return at Bremen in
    April, trotting up by seven lengths,
    and his win last month in the 1m3f
    Union-Rennen ensured he would head
    three-year-old rankings by Derby day.
    Saphir was rated second by virtue
    of his Group 3 win in the Bavarian
    Classic (1m2f) in Munich, while
    Oriental Lion and Panyu, who both
    chased Wiener Walzer home in
    Cologne, ranked third and fourth.
    If there was any reason to doubt
    Wiener Walzer’s Derby credentials,
    perhaps it was the fact that he drifted
    right after taking the lead in the
    Union-Rennen, which might have
    been interpreted that he was nearing
    the limit of his stamina. But on
    Sunday he gave a more professional
    performance and saw out the 1m4f
    well, winning by a length and a
    quarter and a neck from outsiders in
    Sordino and Toughness Danon.
    Pedigree tends to be a poorer guide
    than form when it comes to
    winner-finding, but in this case it
    proved equally effective, as Wiener
    Walzer was emphatically the best-bred
    contender, coming from a background
    readily recognisable as top-class at
    international level. And almost
    uniquely, where winners of the
    Deutsches Derby are concerned, there
    is nothing German about it.
    Wiener Walzer holds a German
    passport, as he was foaled at
    Schlenderhan, but his 61 closest
    ancestors – shown in the adjacent
    five-generation tabulated pedigree –
    all had their origins in elsewhere. The
    US, Canada, England, Ireland, France
    and Italy all feature, while Germany is
    conspicuous by its absence.
    Wiener Walzer comes from the 16th
    crop by the once lightly regarded
    Dynaformer, a massive (17 hands)
    son of Roberto who hardly seemed
    built for careering around America’s
    tight ovals but who was tough enough
    to race 30 times during three seasons
    there. He retired with seven victories
    to his name, most notably at Grade 2
    level in the Jersey Derby (1m2f) and
    the Discovery Handicap (1m1f), both
    as a three-year-old. He showed
    versatility too, placing in Graded
    company on dirt at both 1m and
    1m5f, while two of his wins and a
    third place in the Grade 2 Dixie
    Handicap (1m4f) displayed his
    effectiveness on grass.
    Those achievements, and the bank
    balance of $671,207 they brought
    him, were creditable enough, but they
    could not make him an automatic
    favourite of Kentucky breeders. He
    had not been precocious, he owned
    more stamina than speed, he had no
    Grade 1 win on his cv and he could
    not flaunt a fashionable pedigree. He
    would have to make his name the
    hard way, and with his fee set at
    $5,000 for his first five seasons, he
    could not rely on quality mares.
    From the outset, Dynaformer did
    something important to draw
    attention; he passed on his soundness
    to a remarkable degree. Of the 47
    named foals in his first crop, 46 ran
    and 42 won, and that pattern has
    continued throughout his career, so
    that to the end of 2008, with 16 crops
    of racing age, the latest of them still
    largely unrepresented, no fewer than
    84 per cent of his foals had reached
    the track and 61 per cent had won.
    The merit of that record may be
    gauged by a comparison with his
    exact contemporary Seeking The
    Gold, who registered 78 per cent
    runners and 54 per cent winners over
    the same period, while always
    favoured with higher quality mates.
    Dynaformer had no winner at
    Grade 1 level until Vergennes, from
    his fifth crop, landed the 1998
    Hollywood Derby, and the wait for a
    top-level success on dirt was even
    longer, lasting until his seventh-crop
    daughter Critical Eye took the 2000
    Gazelle Handicap.
    Group 1/Grade 1 victories have
    come regularly since then, Wiener
    Walzer being the 14th individual to
    attain that level, and the ninth to do
    so on grass. Those figures became 15
    and ten a few hours later, when
    Gozzip Girl took the American Oaks
    Invitational at Hollywood Park.
    OVER a decade passed
    between the first Pattern
    success in Europe for a
    Dynaformer product – by
    Voyagers Quest in the
    1996 Prix Saint-Roman – and the
    second, but since Lucarno’s 2007
    Great Voltigeur, en route to a more
    consequential St Leger triumph,
    Michita, Tajaaweed, Americain and
    Rainbow View all added to the tally
    before Wiener Walzer’s Classic score.
    The Deutsches Derby hero is the
    second foal, and second Pattern
    winner, of his dam Walzerkonigin,
    whose first, the Rahy colt
    Walzertraum, took last year’s
    Bavarian Classic. The mare was
    herself a high-class performer,
    winning in Group 3 company in
    France and at Group 2 level in
    Germany before re-crossing the
    Atlantic to more than double her
    earnings, thanks chiefly to a fine
    effort as runner-up in the Grade 1
    Flower Bowl Invitational.
    Walzerkonigin was out of a mare,
    Great Revival, who earned nothing in
    three runs in Ireland but had some
    pedigree to recommend her as a
    broodmare. By Keen, a lower-profile
    brother to Kris and Diesis, she was
    delivered by Prudent Girl, the dam of
    top-grade winners Play It Safe (Prix
    Marcel Boussac) and Providential
    (Washington International), and
    grand-dam of Saratoga Springs
    (Racing Post Trophy).
    Wiener Walzer is a worthy addition
    to the long list of celebrities in this

    long-established quality family

    Kommentar


    • #4
      Nocheinmal Tony Morris:
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      SIRE
      DYNAFORMER

      Bred by Joseph Allen. Won 7 (7f-1m4f) of 30 starts in 3 seasons, viz. 1
      out of 5 at 2 years, 4 (inc Jersey Derby-Gr2, Discovery Handicap-Gr2) out
      of 14 at 3 years, 2 out of 11 at 4 years. Daily Racing Form Handicap: 116
      (11lb below champion Risen Star) at 3. Earned $671,207.
      Plain individual, short on quality and lacking strength behind the saddle.
      Stands 17 hands, but simply high-withered; not a massive horse.
      A good performer, lacking the speed to excel in top Stateside company,
      but smart in his class on both dirt and turf. Well suited by 1m4f.
      Well-bred. Half-brother to a minor stakes-winner, and to dam of 2-y-o Gr2
      winner Supremo. By a Derby winner and major sire out of a Gr1 winner
      who was half-sister to Darby Creek Road (by Roberto; high-class
      performer on dirt and turf, also a useful sire).
      To stud at 5. Stands at Three Chimneys Farm, Midway, Kentucky at a
      fee of $150,000 (live foal). Sire of 17 crops of racing age, inc. notable
      winners Vergennes (Hollywood Derby-Gr1T), Collect The Cash (Queen
      Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T), Critical Eye (Gazelle H.-Gr1D, Hempstead
      H.-Gr1D), Starrer (Santa Maria H.-Gr1D, Santa Margarita Invitational HGr1D),
      Perfect Drift (Stephen Foster H.-Gr1D), Riskaverse (Queen
      Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T, Flower Bowl Invitational H. [twice]-Gr1T),
      Film Maker (Queen Elizabeth Challenge Cup-Gr1T), Sand Springs (Diana
      H.-Gr1T), Purim (Keeneland Turf Mile S.-Gr1), Barbaro (Florida Derby-
      Gr1D, Kentucky Derby-Gr1D), Dynaforce (Flower Bowl Invitational S.-
      Gr1T), Lucarno St Leger S.,-Gr1T), Michita (Gr2T), Gozzip Girl (American
      Oaks Invitational-Gr1T), Rainbow View (Fillies’ Mile-Gr1T), Wiener
      Walzer (Deutsches Derby-Gr1T).
      DAM
      WALZERKONIGIN

      Bred by Taiki Farm in Kentucky. $275,000 Keeneland July yearling. Won 5
      (7f-1m2f) of 13 starts in 3 seasons, viz. 1 out of 1 at 2 years, 3 (inc. Prix
      Chloe-Gr3, Frankfurt Trophy-Gr2) out of 7 at 3 years, 1 (Premio Emilio
      Turati-Gr2) out of 5 at 4 years. Also 2nd in Flower Bowl Invitational S.-
      Gr1. Earned $410,591.
      High-class performer, best as 4-y-o, effective on firm and soft turf.
      Well bred. By a triple Gr1-winning miler and major sire. Half-sister to a
      winner, her dam’s only other runner, herself dam of Gr2-placed Wadaat.
      Dam ran three times unplaced, half-sister to numerous other winners, inc.
      Providential and Play It Safe (both Gr1), Prudent Manner (Listed) and
      Miller’s Lass, and to the dam of Gr1 winner Saratoga Springs.
      Grand-dam won twice, half-sister to successful sires Hethersett, Royal
      Prerogative and Proud Chieftain. Excellent – formerly Cleaboy – family,
      tracing to Lost Soul.
      To stud at 5 and dam of: Walzertraum (2005 c by Rahy), Wiener
      Walzer (2006 c by Dynaformer; Classic winner), Waltzing Wonder (2007 c
      by Monsun; unraced to date). She was not covered in 2007, but visited
      Montjeu in 2008.

      Kommentar


      • #5
        Mit KINGMAMBO dem Muttervater von WIENER WALZER ist nocheinmal amerikanisches Blut im Pedigree und dazu ist dies ein sehr schoener und harmonischer Hengst.
        Dann in der naechsten Generation haben wir mit KEEN einen Vollbruder zu KRIS und DIESIS,hier beginnt dann die englische Blutlinie des Pedigrees.

        Sollte der Hengst in Deutschland aufgestellt werden,haben wir Blutanschluss durch ACATENANGO(bzw.SURUMU) ueber : RELIANCE (DOUBLY SURE - KEENs Mutter)

        Durch LAW SOCIETY : RIBOT,ALIBHAI,HELIOPOLIS und natuerlich NASRULLAH.

        Durch RANSOM O'WAR : ROBERTO, NASHUA(dann 3X) und MY BABU.

        Durch DASHING BLADE : SHARPEN UP und NATIVE DANCER.

        Durch DAI JIN : NUREYEV , RAISE A NATIVE, NORTHERN DANCER (3X)


        Um nur einige Verbindungen zu nennen,und damit werden wir uns langsam aber sicher dem Ende der deutschen Linienzuchten naehern,natuerlich bleiben sie ganz weit hinten im Pedigree erthalten.

        Kommentar


        • #6
          DYNAFORMER hatte noch einen Gr I Sieger: Die AMERICAN OAKS-Siegerin:

          GOZZIP GIRL

          Auch sie ist wie WIENER WALZER aus einer KINGMAMBO Mutter.

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